24 May 2007
What were the original motivations for starting the BCS?
MW: When we began the society there was no particular forum for people with a real interest in computers and their application. Within my own laboratory at Cambridge there were Thursday afternoon seminars which were extremely popular. But this did not help those around the country who were interested in computing.
Business people who wanted to talk about their computing problems formed the London Computer Society. There quickly developed a recognition that a national body was required. Its founders wanted a comprehensive organisation, not just a business-oriented club.
So although many of the early participants came from business, they understood the importance of the research and academic elements. This has always been a strength of the BCS. We recognised a role for the BCS as a professional body and as a learned society.
I was on the technical programming side and lectured throughout the UK to newly-formed branches – at this time branches were springing up rapidly. We also ran seminars devoted to computer engineering. These were for those building computers, developing systems libraries, and so on.
In its early days the society was very much a communications channel, a forum for like-minded individuals to share their experience, problems and solutions.
What BCS achievement are you most happy about?
MW: The fact that we began a society that met a clear need,
and attracted young people with a real commitment to developing computing in
this country.
NS: That 50 years on we retain our original energy and
commitment.
IT and computing has been transformational – it has changed our world. We can look back with real pride to the contribution that the BCS and its members have made.
But because IT and computing is now so ubiquitous we need to embrace a broad spectrum of individuals and organisations who use, develop and deploy systems in a wide variety of contexts and sectors.
Where should the BCS now be expending its energies?
NS: Maintaining our momentum. Understanding the relationships between the various species of IT and computing. We also need to develop and execute on our professionalism programme.
The original charter of the BCS states that we exist to teach and research computing for the benefit of the public.
I believe passionately we need to explain our subject, its impact, excitement and opportunities to a wider public. This will help attract our brightest and best youngsters into the profession. Frankly, we are not very good at conveying the excitement of our subject.
Too often IT is seen as a clerical or simply a vocational set of skills.
IT literacy is important, but it doesn't produce the next generation of researchers. Teaching IT literacy does not produce individuals able to think and deploy problem-solving skills. Were we to teach computational thinking more rigorously, we would focus on just such problem-solving skills.
Computational thinking is about teaching students to ask questions such as what can be computed, what kind of solution works, what form of representation best serves problem-solving, how can a complex problem be abstracted or else decomposed. US academic Jeanette Wing has argued that these skills are as important as numeracy, reading and writing.
MW: Our subject has always been exciting. It needs to be kept exciting and that excitement effectively communicated to our young people.
What will/should the professionalism programme achieve?
NS: It will provide a framework within which we can be confident as to the competence, experience and ability of individuals. This is particularly important in the application of information systems to business and organisational contexts.
A key to this is the CITP standard – we want employers to see this as something positive, a qualification that gives them confidence in the skills and capabilities of those who have it. It should be seen as complementary to the other chartered qualifications the BCS is able to confer – CEng emphasises engineering competence and CSci focuses on the analytic and formal underpinnings of our subject.
Our discipline has benefited enormously from the input of engineers, physicists, mathematicians, human and social scientists. Professionalism is as much about knowing the limits of one’s own competence and calling upon the knowledge and ingenuity of others. We need to recognise the interdisciplinary character of modern information systems.
MW: The word interdisciplinary is important. Computing was born out of the intersection of a number of disciplines – electronics and engineering, physics and mathematics.
Its application has always been broad-based – banking and the retail sector, manufacturing and the engineering sector. We have always been like that.
Computer scientist Vint Cerf thinks we should provide a challenge such as addressing global warming to get younger people engaged.
NS: When you're young you have fire in your belly. You want to make a difference and put the world to rights. My children are concerned by the global challenges they know their generation will have to deal with.
Understanding climate change, eliminating poverty, making efficient use of energy – on each of these and many more subjects technology will be essential.
Grand challenges can be a very effective way of recruiting people’s energies and motivating them.
How has the BCS changed in your time?
MW: The industry has grown up and matured. The BCS is more complex because computing has become so elaborate – it is embedded in so many aspects of the modern world.
The BCS is trying to support a developing profession. As well as the excellent work of our staff we rely on our members for their voluntary effort.
As we grow larger, staying in touch with our members and volunteers becomes more challenging. But we must never forget that our volunteers provide much of the energy and enthusiasm that the BCS needs to thrive.
NS: The big change for the BCS has been the finances. It is so much easier to focus on your objectives with sound finances. Another recent change is in the average age of new members – it has gone from 38 to 28 in recent years.
The achievements of Maurice Wilkes and his generation put into a harsh perspective the performance of the great and good of the BCS and the UK industry generally ever since.
He did things much more quickly than today's academics. In 1946, he decided to build a computer as a tool for the Cambridge Maths Lab. By 1949 he had produced EDSAC, from scratch - with a bit of help from John van Neumann in the States. Some people claim it was the first programmed computer in the world.
Not only that; EDSAC spawned the first business computer in the world. Joe Lyons, the tea shop chain, decided in 1949 it wanted a better way to do stock control on its buns, so a pupil of Maurice Wilkes, John Pinkerton, adapted EDSAC, with magnetic tape and punched card input, into LEO (Lyons Electronic Office) for business needs. He ran the first live programme, the valuation of bakery output and sales, through LEO on 17 November 1951.
From an idea in Maurice Wilkes's head to a business application in only five years. Match that today. The use had been thought up by an end-user, not an IT guy. Three years later, Joe Lyons decided to market LEO, because none of the business machine companies, including IBM, had come up with a viable business alternative. LEO came from the needs of a business end-user, not the airy-fairy ideas of so-called "computer scientists".
There are a load of messages from this heartening story of British derring-do for the BCS of today. Most of these messages contradict conventional wisdom.
One is about professionalism. The LEO people had not learnt about computers at school or university. Computers did not exist at that time. Their professionalism came from the professions they were in before they joined Joe Lyons. They were Organisation and Methods people, accountants, management trainees, production engineers. They learnt the techie bit as they went on. To me, the LEO guys were the only real professionals I ever met in the IT industry. And I have been in it for over 50 years.
The BCS should perhaps ask why. Perhaps people should learn a profession first, and only then, like the LEO guys, be let loose on computers.
Maurice Wilkes and his contemporaries were giants. I sometimes wonder about their successors!
Freelance Journalist
(and council member PITCOM)
Posted by: Richard Sarson 22 Jun 2007
On March 2007, Dr Vinton Cerf presented 'Internet, Infinity and Beyond' in Brisbane Australia, he was interviewed at a press conference hosted by Alessandro Sorbello of New Realm Media http://www.newrealm.com.au excerpts from Dr. Cerf's presentation are available online at New Realm - His enlightening discussion addresses many aspects of the internet's past and future and highlights some of the challenges which we face as the internet community continues to expand. Alessandro Sorbello's interview with Dr Cerf can be read at the same site.
Posted by: Alessandro Sorbello 26 May 2007
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